This is getting ridiculous. So far Bernier's fiat's have established that: - access-independent Voice-over-Internet is the same market as access-dependent Voice-over-IP-over-DSL. Except that only makes even a little sense if Bell and TELUS practice strict network neutrality -- they haven't promised any such thing. - wireless service is totally substitutable for wireline. Except, news flash: I can't grab a mobile phone, roam about my basement, and get exactly the same service as I could with a wireline phone, nor PIC my LD provider. Nor do cell phones hew to Quality of Service standards for local telephony. Yet, somehow, it's all the same market. What's the biggest joke of all is that Bernier likes to trumpet economic rationalism -- then goes and overrules market definition decision, without providing any economic analysis whatsoever. You can agree or disagree with the CRTC's decisions but, for God's sake, tell us where they went wrong! This is simply regulation by government fiat. We understand that he's got a hate-on for the CRTC and is flexing his ministerial muscles to pursue his little vendetta. But, well, we're all about to get screwed in the process. Price deregulation notwithstanding the clear exercise of market power by dominant providers? Well so far we've tried that with cell phones, which has resulted in dramatically higher pricing than anywhere else, and with cable TV, which has resulted in clear linear price hikes ever since deregulation happened. I'm very dubious about all this, as you can tell. It just does not add up.