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Are Online Polls a Business?

by Mark Evans on Wed 22 Feb 2006 01:02 PM EST | Permanent Link | Cosmos

Silicon Beat has a post today on Vizu raising $1-million to develop an online polling service from a group of investors that includes WR Hambrecht + Co, Amicus Capital, Ron Conway, Esther Dyson, Don Hutchison, and Mike Maples, Jr. I've played with several other poll services - Quimble, dPolls - and found them to be interesting tools and fairly easy to use. Vizu was, by far, the most time-consuming poll to create and I was disappointed to discover the only way to distribute it was via e-mail, as opposed to being able to put it on your blog or Web site. The question is whether Vizu, Quimble, dPolls, etc. can become businesses. From what I can tell, dPolls and Quimble are generating revenue from AdSense, which means they have to attract lots of traffic from polls on blogs and Web sites back to their corporate site. It's still pretty early days but I don't see a vibrant business model here unless what we're looking at is low-cost operations that don't require much revenue to survive. My sense is online polling is just another cool Web 2.0 service with limited business prospects. Give me some time, and I'll come up with a catchy acronym or pithy phrase to describe these "cool but..." group.

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Re: Are Online Polls a Business?

by Anonymous on Thu 23 Feb 2006 01:34 PM EST | Permanent Link

Hi Mark, Topper from Quimble here. Interesting comments, and I find it a little crazy that Vizu needs that much money to work on their ideas. My operation is a one-man show operating on about $40/month - in my spare time. At first, I never looked at Quimble as a way to make me a wealthy man.

However, I think there are real opportunities out there for the platform that don't come from advertising revenue. In fact, I've been thinking about switching my free polls to a "donation-ware" due to the abysmal rate that I'm generating from AdSense.

I think you'll see some cool stuff from Quimble by the end of the month, and maybe more of a business model by the end of the year.

I noticed that you do have some Quimble polls - and I hope they've been good for you. I also see the dPolls over there :-). I think they have a nice product also. Their scrolling is the only thing that really bothers me.

Re: Are Online Polls a Business?

by Mark Evans on Thu 23 Feb 2006 09:29 PM EST | Profile | Permanent Link

topper,
you may want to look into some navigation strategy. as it now stands, you can vote at quimble but can't see the results, which even after vote, which drives people to quimble. perhaps there's some way to encourage people to visit the site for other polls. i like the idea of providing them, i'm just not sure about it as a business. then again, you're a one man shop so the key would probably be rolling out a suite of services that require little infrastructure so you get a little from each one.

Re: Re: Are Online Polls a Business?

by Anonymous on Thu 23 Feb 2006 10:06 PM EST | Permanent Link

"topper, you may want to look into some navigation strategy. as it now stands, you can vote at quimble but can't see the results, "

Sorry - don't understand that sentence.

I understand your point, and I wish I could elucidate anymore. All I can say - is that I think you're right: providing free polls to anyone that wants is not a business plan. It was never meant that way for me, it appears that maybe it was for others. I think there is some value in the polling sector, but I'm under orders not to talk about it now :-). Sorry.

Anyway - if you have any suggestions on improving Quimble from a user experience... I'm glad to listen.

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